25 Nov 2009, Posted by Shawn in Green,Live Work,Sustainability, 8 Comments, Short-URL:http://portlandbuilt.com/si9jl
Live/Work Update: Radiant Heat
Portland winters are relatively mild, but you still need a reliable heat source. Over the next few weeks, we’ll continue to blog on the development of our very cool (or warm) radiant heating system.
For the Live/Work project we’re installing radiant hydronic heating – it’s a great way to provide comfort at a reasonable cost. The idea is quite simple – PEX “circuits” snake through the core of the slab and under the floor; hot water from a boiler (or water heater) is then pumped through the system. The end result is an evenly heated room with absolutely zero ducting. By choosing radiant heat, we’ve eliminated about a million issues associated with traditional HVAC (like: where to locate the big furnace; duct cleaning, the difficulty of insulating wall cavities with ducting; noise; dust; etc., etc.)
The guts of the system – Pex tubing - has a lot of advantages: It’s relatively cheap, durable, and can be installed by semi-skilled laborers. In about a day, we were able to place all of the tubing for the first-floor slab.
Someday we hope to augment the system with solar hot water heating or PV-powered direct-fire water heaters. Until then, we’ll be using natural gas to run the system. It was a tough debate between gas and electicity, but in the end, the cost differential was just too high. Natural gas was cheaper and the utility was willing to run the lines at almost no expense to us.


8 Comments
November 26, 2009 12:49 am
Concrete Slab Pour at the Portland Blog Live/Work | Portland Built
[...] biggest concern during the pour was the network of PEX tubing tied to the rebar. A web search the night before told me that it wasn’t impossible for a concrete worker to [...]
July 23, 2010 10:44 am
Dave, Portland HVAC
Looks Great,
Radiant heating is such a great way to heat a home. It is nice for new homes to have this installed because it helps free up space in the home and even takes care of issues of duct cleaning.
February 28, 2011 8:35 pm
Mark
Hello,
I’ve been following along for awhile now and very much enjoy reading and checking out the pics/videos.
I’m curious who the contractor was that installed the pex tubing and who did the concrete slab pour. Was it one and the same? How about for the upstairs gypsum pour?
You’ve mentioned before how difficult it is to even find contractors. They need to promote themselves a bit more so they are easier to find.
Appreciate any leads.
Thanks,
Mark
March 01 2011 11:35 am
Shawn
Hey Mark,
The concrete work was done by All American Concrete. Overall, I was really happy with the quality of their work. They were on time, on budget, and seemed to put a lot of heart into the project. There are a few high-spots in the finished slab, but I doubt it's possible to attain a perfectly level floor. Call Kip at (503) 282-3110.
On the second floor, the gyp-crete was done by Acusti-level. They were good too - I'd hire both outfits again.
We did the PEX work ourselves. It's not exceptionally complex, though I'm not sure I would recommend that path. You might talk to Barry LaDuke at LaDuke Radiant sales. He's in Portland and can probably refer you to a good contractor: http://www.ladukeradiantsales.com/
As for your comment about contractors promoting themselves...I'd say you hit the nail right on the head. This industry is way behind the curve - many businesses have either no website or very poor ones.
March 1, 2011 12:07 pm
Barry E. LaDuke @BarryLaDuke
Shawn: Thanks for the nice mention and heads up about this blog (again!).
Mark: I have a list of heating contractors on my website for a quick referral, but it might be helpful to look me up to discuss your project in more detail. I might be able to provide a little more “dialed in” referral for you.
Give me a call (contact info on the web site).
March 21, 2011 3:51 pm
P. Fries @Twitter Name
Do you have a list of people who do gypecrete or lightweight concrete pumped over plywood flooring in Portland area?
March 22 2011 12:02 pm
Shawn
Unfortunately, no. I'm under the impression that it's a bit of a fixed game - there are only a couple of manufacturers and they distribute through select contractors...I'm guessing that pricing will be similar across the board. Barry may have some input here, since he works with radiant guys on a regular basis.
March 22, 2011 12:23 pm
Barry E. LaDuke @barryladuke
http://www.ultraquietfloors.com/our_company.asp
These are the guys who do most of the gypcrete pours around here. However, any radiant heating subcontractor with any experience can provide you with an overpour system.
Also see my Contractor Friends listing at LaDukeRadiantSales.com.
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